TIG: Back at The Movies, The Cancer Edition

Leah 0:00

Welcome to episode 26 of the cancer. In this episode, we're back at the movies today we're reviewing TIG, a documentary from 2015.

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Hi, I'm Dr. Tina Kaeser in one movie that always makes me laugh is Talladega nights. I'm Dr. Lee Sherman and damn it. That was my movie too. No way.

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we're two naturopathic doctors who practice integrative cancer care

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But we're not your doctors

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Leah 0:44

Welcome to the cancer pod Hey, Tina. Hi, Leah. We're back

Tina 0:59

at the movies this time with a focus on cancer.

Leah 1:03

Yeah. We're going to talk about some cancer stories, some documentaries about. Real people

Tina 1:10

who had cancer. Yeah. And just to recap for anyone, who's a new listener, we did a series on movies or so-called documentaries so-called Shakim entries, documentaries, documentaries on nutrition and

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diet.

Leah 1:25

Yeah. So we just figured we're the cancer pod. So let's, let's watch some cancer related movies.

Tina 1:30

That was the feedback. Or

Leah 1:32

I got, no, I guess we both, we both did. Yeah. And some of the movies were recommended to us and some of them, I just kind of found and apparently the one we're about to talk about today, we'd both started watching it. And didn't remember starting watching it until we

Tina 1:47

watched the whole thing. Yeah. I'm guessing that I did it so many years ago. It just kinda slipped my mind that I even started watching it.

Leah 1:55

Yeah. It was on your, it was on your Netflix list, like on mine. It was definitely saved. So yeah, I must've started watching it at one point and then got distracted. So I guess we'll just start talking about the movie. Yep. So our first documentary is called

Introduction- TIG, the documentary

Leah 2:10

TIG and it's about. TIG Notaro.

Tina 2:14

Yeah. And it came out in 2015. So it's been around for a little while. Yeah.

Leah 2:18

And it's it's available to watch on Netflix, as we mentioned, it's been on our list and yeah. So we'll do, we'll talk about what the movie is about and what we liked about it, what we didn't like about it. And if there are any moments, you know, that we could relate to, or what parts stuck out the most, I guess Defining moments.

Tina 2:36

Yeah. We can find some general information that's applicable to whoever.

Leah 2:42

Yeah. so who is TIG Notaro for those of you who are living under a rock? Um, get to that in a second. TIG Notaro is a comedian. She's an actor, she's a podcaster. She has two podcasts that are out. Now don't ask TIG and taking Cheryl true story, which is kind of. Got the idea for doing this? the movie reviews, she along with Cheryl Hines, who is also an actor, they talk about documentaries

Tina 3:10

and apparently the TIG had a podcast back in the day, at least 10 years ago called professor.

Leah 3:16

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even know they had podcasts 10 years ago, so she's on the forefront, the bed I should have looked up to see who did the first one could have been TIG. I don't know. So, the under the rock thing is that, that's how I kind of first heard of her. think I learned about her having had breast cancer and talking about it as part of her comedy routine and making appearances where she was topless. And so you just saw her mastectomy scars

A few personal tidbits

Leah 3:44

and I had just completed treatment in like 2015. I think that's when I learned of her. And I was like, oh yeah, That's pretty bad-ass, especially the whole like turning cancer into comedy. And then I discovered on YouTube, she had a show called under a rock with TIG Notaro. And it is so funny because apparently she's not into pop culture. And so these famous people who are fans of hers, come on the show and it's like a game show. She has to figure out who they are. And it is really funny.

Tina 4:18

I need to watch that. I've never seen it. You do need to watch

Leah 4:21

it because you also are not big into pop culture to that. And so I might have to start doing like game show type things to get you to know who people are. 'cause I think, you know who people are, you just might not know their names or their faces, but you're probably aware of things that people have done. Okay. Am I giving

Tina 4:42

you too much credit? You might be? Cause I think, I think it's shocking. I'm shockingly ignorant when it comes to pop culture.

Leah 4:48

Right. I think, you know, more than you think. So, how did you, how did you first

Tina 4:53

hear of TIG? I honestly don't remember. I watched her, there was a series or a sitcom type thing, something with Mississippi in it. One Mississippi?

Leah 5:02

Yeah. Okay. I haven't seen that. I haven't

Tina 5:05

seen that. It's on my list, I liked the sitcom Oh, he did. I did. Yeah.

Leah 5:10

I thought that was really good. Well, I just said she's really good. I love, she's kind of got like that sort of dry sense of humor. really subtle, you know? Yeah. I feel like she

Tina 5:21

could be any one of our friends. Oh, completely, completely much funnier, you know, like, like. Well crafted version, stand up comedic version of a lot of our friends, maybe a composite of several friends, but together I

Leah 5:35

have some pretty funny friends. I think she could hold her own against some of my friends.

Tina 5:40

Wait, you and your friends could

Leah 5:41

hold their own against her? No, I'm just saying, I think she could fit in. Oh, all right. So, um, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we will do our little summary of what the movie's about. Okay. So today we're talking about the documentary TIG and I'll read the summary that was on Netflix so that y'all can know, but it's about

Netflix Summary

Leah 6:11

you ready for this? Are you ready for this?

Tina 6:13

I'm

Leah 6:13

so ready for this. So comedian TIG Notaro had a devastating year having just recovered from a life-threatening infection and still in mourning over her mother's sudden passing Notaro, subsequent discovery of bilateral breast cancer left her no choice, but to. Profound pain into an ongoing punchline, both on and off the stage. Netflix original documentary TIG tells the incredible story of her search and discovery of. And love amid devastating news. That's pretty accurate. Yeah, I think, I think we're, I think we're done. I think that explains the whole movie right there. There you

Tina 6:46

go again. It's on Netflix. We'll talk to you later.

Leah 6:50

And on that note, um, no, I mean, that's, that's a perfect summary. so it kind of starts off where. You know, she's, she's touring,

Our summary

Leah 6:59

she's got her podcast, she's working on a pilot, I guess she's making she's made, or it was making a movie. She talks about how she wants to be pregnant.

Tina 7:08

in her words, she just says 2012 was her busiest year. Ever. Everything was starting to click and come together. And she even started thinking about having a baby because she was busy. Basically not have to be on the road all the time. She had enough projects in LA that she could be somewhat stable location wise. Right.

Leah 7:29

Then all of a sudden she becomes really ill, like really. And I guess it took a while for them to kind of figure out

TIG's C. Diff infection

Leah 7:36

what was going on with her. And it turned out she had seen,

Tina 7:39

yes. So C difficile is, uh, intestinal infection that is sometimes hard to treat. I mean, usually it gets pretty advanced before it gets diagnosed because it's not common. Found, unless if you, you know, it might be commonly found during treatment or when you're immune suppressed or when there's other things going on, but she had a C diff infection. didn't

Leah 8:02

didn't seem to have other stuff going on. not, yeah, not that she knew of. and so she lost a whole lot of weight. They're trying to figure out what's going on with her. And then what I thought was really kind of interesting is they have. You know, like voice messages and texts, like w were those still on her phone? Like, that's kind of cool if they were, cause they had conversations that they were like, reenacting texts and then they also had actual voice messages and. One of the voice messages on March 24th, 2012 was it was her birthday and her mom left her birthday message. Yes. And then she gets a message from her stepfather and it turns out her mom had an accident and that she fell and she hit her head and it was pretty bad and she was in the hospital.

Tina 8:52

And so just to put this all in context, she went from this infection. Got the C difficile infection laid out hospitalized so weak. She could barely get out of a chair. And then it's just one week later on the 12th of March, I think it was while she's

TIG's mom is gone

Tina 9:09

ill, her mother calls and says, I hope you're feeling better. And then on the 24th of March, she got a happy birthday message. So it was like within two weeks of her being in the hospital, that her mom called. Right. It

Leah 9:20

says happy birthday. Right? Two days later she fell, hit her head. And I, that, I don't know, this was kind of, this was like the hard part for me, you know, just the fact that like she's with her mom in the hospital, like she wasn't gonna leave her mom. They're told, you know, your mom is basically brain dead and she doesn't know what's going on, but like TIG won't leave her mom. I mean, she was there when her mom died.

Tina 9:47

That was the most emotive scene in the entire movie for TIG as well. I mean, that's when we saw her tear up, not her own cancer, it was her mom's passing and telling the story on camera that made her emote the most in the entire movie, I think. And

Leah 10:01

like, I mean, I think that's, that's how it was for me was. I had lost my father earlier in the year prior to my diagnosis. And yeah, to me, that was far more devastating than my own news, um, you know, later in the year. So that part, yeah, that part was really hard. She talks about her mom throughout the movie and she says like, her mom is where she got her sense of humor. They had all this footage and like photos and stuff, and you know, of her mom and she, she describes her as like a prankster, you know? Yeah. She says, she, she said this one line when I lost my mother, I lost the person who understood me the most, you know, and I mean, that's just, I don't know. I mean, the loss, the loss of a parent is it's really difficult.

TIG gets diagnosed with cancer

Leah 10:50

So she has all of this going on in her life. She's ill. She loses her mom. I think she even goes through a breakup, which they don't really go into too much. They kind of mentioned it on the side. Right. And she ends up doing, um, this American life and he talks to her about like, she should talk about. All these tragedies that she's gone through, you know, like in her comedy. And she's like, uh, you know, I don't, I don't know how to do this. Like she couldn't, she couldn't see that. And then in July of that year, she finds a lump in her

Tina 11:23

breast. Yeah. It turns out she's got breast cancer in both breasts.

Leah 11:28

Yeah. She has bilateral breast cancer and she underwent a double mastectomy and she says like about the. What was going on, everything came over me as funny. And I think that's so true, right? I mean, it's when you're diagnosed with cancer, I mean, it is a devastating diagnosis, but at the same time, it's like, it's incredibly absurd, especially like everything that you go through with exams and you can give, just like lose your privacy, you lose your inhibitions and you know, all of these types of things, um,

Tina 12:03

and is not that funny in real time for most people. I mean, I D I do think that TIG has a special place for using comedy to get through life in general, even at this point. So at this point, we're in 2012, she's been doing comedy for her entire life. So in 2012, she's 42 years old, maybe 41. Um, so it's how she. Is able to cope to doesn't everybody. I don't think so. No,

Leah 12:32

not everybody uses humor to cope with

Tina 12:34

tragedy. No, I think, I think it's, I think that some people do take certainly does. Um, it's a good tool, right? I mean, it seems healthy and I understand what you're saying, the ludicrous ness of what's going on compared to what happens in the real world, I

Leah 12:50

guess. Yeah, hell yeah, one minute. You're like kind of going about your life. And then all of a sudden, this one discovery. Knocks you off your feet. I mean, I guess I'm being, I don't think I'm being flipped, but I, I just know a lot of people who have used comedy to, to deal with.

Tina 13:10

I always think to myself, you know, you've seen a lot of cancer patients and you can just think of the gamut of different reactions during treatment that it runs the whole gamut, like the entire spectrum and whatever people feel is fine. You know, like whatever that is, it is. Expected not expected. It's just, everyone has a different, everyone gets a cancer diagnosis in the context of a larger life. So I just assume everyone does what they do and reacts how they will. And that's, I guess, from my perspective, as a clinician, I'm just thinking I hold the space for that. I don't, I think I've seen the whole gamut.

Leah 13:43

I dunno. I, I do think, I think the whole thing is absurd. I think it's just absolutely ridiculous. Um, That our bodies turn on us like that. And apparently so, did she? And she used it to her advantage

Aug, 2012- The gig that went viral

Leah 13:56

in terms of, in August of that year after her diagnosis, she does a show at this club called Largo and she basically walks out on stage and she says, good evening, I have cancer. How are you? And it was like, apparently this mind blowing set, where people were encouraging her to go on. She just was like raw and out there. I mean, people were crying in the audience and there are other comedians there and they're tweeting. Like I just saw the best show of my life. You know, like this is one of the greatest performances I'd ever seen and she pretty much becomes an overnight sensation.

Tina 14:41

Yeah. And that is. The pivot point. So we see the before and after that pivot point in her life, in her way of being early on, really early in the movie, TIG kind of sets us up as the viewer, by saying when she's on stage and this is a quote, they get me, I get them and they get the person next to them. So she sat in the audience when things are going well, and you're clicking. There's a understanding. Between everybody. And I, and I think what she really enjoys is facilitating that, facilitating the human connection between everyone in the room. So I thought that was a, like a really interesting way to put it when she said what she gets from comedy and why she does it.

Leah 15:25

Yeah, no, I, yeah. I remember when she said that quote and it is, it's kind of like, like comedy is, it's a great unifier. You can have people with different life experiences and. You all go to a comedy show and you know, everybody's just starts laughing over the same stuff and yeah, it's, it's just kinda like, that's, that's a great way to bring people together.

Tina 15:48

Yeah. And I thought that was so cool because I like think to myself as, you know, we all have certain skills and talents and, and I just thought, you know, that's awesome because she uses her power for good. That's how I think of it. It's like, she's has this capability. To bring the room together and have a common moment and connection that she facilitates. So I, I just thought that was such a cool, cool thing. And then, so when she goes on later to find her voice after her own cancer diagnosis, or find a voice with the cancer diagnosis after the tragedy, after. Prior months. I think of that quote in context of that, it's like she brought that room together that one night that you're talking about in a way that was profound and everyone who was there knew it, that there was a connection being had between her and each other and a, the absurdity of life of the pain and the comedy all wrapped together. I mean, it was really pretty

Leah 16:45

awesome. Yeah. And she had. Quote, which was kind of like ran through a couple of times about God, doesn't give you more than you can handle, but then she made a joke of it because, um, you know, apparently God kept handing her. More crap. It's good. Just keep doling it out. So throughout the movie, like it keeps coming back to like the loss

Life- the big picture

Leah 17:07

of her mother and then also to like her desire to have a family, um, she is still very close to her family back in Mississippi. And you can tell like, family is like so important to her. She says something else about, she can adjust to her body being different and eating differently. Um, but like losing her mother, isn't fine. Or isn't okay. I can't remember exactly what she said, but I dunno, these are just things that like when, when something happens to a person, I think it's often. Easier to manage because you're in survival mode, but when you're witness to something happening to a loved one, there's that feeling of helplessness, you know? So, yeah. I don't know. I, I just, I really did identify with that without feeling, that she had. So you mentioned that she, you know, she was trying to find her comedy again, after this, after the show that she did and, you know, You see her like running through like the same joke, like throughout the movie, like trying to find her punchline, you know, trying to find the laugh in her joke. And, um, you also see how, you know, she, what I thought was like a really, really interesting part was when she is going through the consult for. the hormone therapy, um, to become pregnant. She chooses to that. She is going to undergo fertility treatment for one cycle and harvest the eggs and she didn't realize. After her double mastectomy, if the cancer came back, it wouldn't be

Tina 18:52

treatable. Well, that was an interesting example of the doctor said, if it comes back, it is not curable. And then they have a scene with her in the car and she says something along the lines of, I didn't know. It wasn't going to be treatable. If it came back, it is treatable.

Leah 19:11

It's just not curable.

Tina 19:13

Right. And that was, I mean, for me, I've had that happen too in my office where I think I'm saying one thing and the patient, here's another thing. And then when we meet again, I'm like, wait a second. Is that what you heard? That's not what I meant for you to come away with. Right. So I caught that. Immediately because curable and treatable are two very different things. Right. Right.

Leah 19:33

But even in her hearing treatable, and maybe in her mind, she thought that was the same as curable. That is a really common occurrence with, with patients not realizing like, okay, I've removed my breasts. I'm not going to get breast cancer anymore.

Tina 19:53

Yeah. And she quoted the surgeon and whether this was said or not, we will never know, but the surgeon said we got it. All right. And most surgeons, aren't going to say that most surgeons I know would never say that because they don't know that, but I don't know. That's what the patient heard. So that's what we'll go with. I got it all. Is. Thing to say, because you want them to walk away confident, but the truth is you don't know if there's a small amount of disease somewhere else in the body.

Leah 20:21

And she, and she does bring that up later, you know, because you know, the risk of doing, hormone treatment is that if there is cancer, you know, some occult cancer somewhere. That it could get, it could get triggered because she had a hormone positive breast cancer. And she did talk about, she would be doing hormone therapy for five years following not the fertility treatment, but, you know, yes. Tamoxifen or aromatase inhibitor. She doesn't go into what she was going to take, but she does. Um, she has this best friend from her childhood and he is the sperm donor. And. They harvest the eggs and they talk about like, you know, how many were viable and, you know, they just kind of go through that part of it. And she starts to meet with, she meets a surrogate, she finds a surrogate and a really. Odd way

Tina 21:12

a surrogate volunteered, contacted her a surrogate, found her through her podcast.

Leah 21:19

So, you know, she, they have a scene where she goes and she, you know, she meets with them and everything. And then there's like this other kind of subplot where there's a

Stephanie- BFF or more?

Leah 21:30

woman, Stephanie, who they had been in a movie together and they just started hanging out. And became really, really good friends. And Stephanie only saw that this was a friendship. She never saw that there was any sort of romantic potential because she had only been with men previously. And then when. I think, I guess when TIG realizes that this is not going to go in the direction she wants, she ends the relationship with Stephanie.

Tina 21:57

Right, right. Because it's torture. Otherwise, if you're in love with someone in your BFFs, you just can't keep going that direction. Right.

Leah 22:04

And, you know, I'm sure it was really hard because they were best friends. And so, you know, losing your best friend after everything that you've been through, you know, it must have been really hard.

Tina 22:15

Yeah. And Stephanie. Time when they're apart, it's the classic. You don't know what you got till it's gone moment. So she realizes that she doesn't want to live without TIG. Yeah. Right. So that was a nice, that was a nice kind of, you know, life goes on. What I liked about this entire documentary is, you know, there's books on, you know, cancer's a turning point. Cancer is this, you know, Seminole moment. You have life before and life after. And it's all very true, but I liked the fact that the emphasis was on. How it changed and how there was a pivot once she became public with that and did that one routine that changed her life, but there was so much life going on at the same time. Right? Like it wasn't just about cancer. It wasn't like here's my cancer journey from day one through treatment. It was, this is my life in 2012 and all the way through 2013, to an extent, I thought that it was really artfully done in that she did with the documentary, what she does on stage, which is make it very. I thought that was really

Leah 23:15

well done. Right? Because even with this diagnosis, she still goes through with the plan of trying to have a baby, she gets into a relationship, a relationship ends because that's not the relationship she was hoping for. It's all kind of like culminating up to

Aug, 2013- Return to the stage.

Leah 23:30

the, the anniversary show.

Tina 23:31

anniversary of what

Leah 23:32

the one year, since her coming out with cancer yeah, so she, she kind of like, hold on, was that the show where she came up with the punchline for the, for the running joke, there was like that, that whole running joke about like her being flat-chested.

23:57

We are sick. Let's kill her.

Be careful what you wish for!

Leah 24:03

Which I think is really funny. Cause like I had a whole lot of jokes about being flat-chested too. Do you wanna hear my joke? Yeah. I'm no TIG Notaro, but um, so I like my whole life, all I ever wanted was curly hair and, and larger breasts. And after cancer, I got both your hair got curly after chemo hair got curly after chemo. And I got, well, I had such small breasts that by implants ended up. Bringing me up to a bigger size. So I'm not very good at that, but it's actually really freaking funny. Like you have to be careful what you wish for, because you don't always know how you're going

Tina 24:39

to get it. All right. I'm gonna start wishing for other, some other things then pretty hard. You got

Leah 24:44

you, you have to be really specific about, about what you wish for, because you might get curly hair and larger breasts, but it's not the way you wanted to get. Anyways. Okay. We'll move on from my it's funny. That's the thing cancer people are laughing right now because they're like, I totally get that. Damn it. My hair's curly too. You laugh at my jokes when the camera's not on. I know you do. That's the thing you're being very

Tina 25:11

precise. I'm I'm just smiling. Large.

Leah 25:16

You are smiling. Yes. It's a funny joke, but not not my delivery. Like I said, I'm no. Okay, anything else we need to add about the movie? Um,

So how does it end?

Leah 25:25

we kind of told them, like everything. Are we supposed to tell like how the movie kind of ends? I mean, I guess if you look

Tina 25:30

her up, I mean, we know she lives, she's still around. Yes. Well, yes. I mean, that is the ending, the ending. And she carries on, well,

Leah 25:38

the, yeah, she's, she's, she's doing great. She's like hugely popular. And um, I mean she and Stephanie got married and they actually had twins through a surrogate. So she, she, you know, she's, she's got her family and that's kind of cool. So yeah, I guess like the messages, like life continues, you know? Yeah.

Tina 26:01

Cancer happens in the context of life. Right. It's consuming. Don't get me wrong, you know, during treatment and in many ways afterwards. But I think that's what I liked about this, her defining moment, strangely enough, wasn't even the cancer diagnosis or defining moment was that one skit on stage where she went from a private person to completely bearing all of her vulnerabilities and all of her trials and tribulations of the last, whatever four months. So I think, I mean, to me, you know what question that struck me with two. When you define something publicly and you share an experience with other people, in what ways does that change your experience itself? Right. So privately, if she had never done that skit, would she be in a different place? Not just professionally. I mean, just personally, like was bearing that onstage. And making it public, was that part of getting over it, because like she said, all this love poured at me and all this, kindness. She was just floored by how much people felt for her and that compassion. And just kind of knowing that your faith in humanity is restored with that rather than your private moments where you may not experience that.

Leah 27:17

Yeah. And there's something different with being a cancer person where when you learned that someone else has this shared experience, it may not be the same cancer. It may not be the same treatment and you may not have but there may not have the same outcomes, but there's that connection, like what her connection of comedy is. There's that cancer connection where. I mean, there are other, you know, there are other people, maybe it's just me, but like, you know, you learned that someone else had cancer, someone who like, who like, like if there's like a, like an actor or celebrity or, you know, singer or someone and you find out that they have a history of cancer suddenly it's like, oh, I might not have been interested in them before, but oh, now I'm a little interested, you know, because of that, that connection, maybe that's me. Maybe I'm just

Tina 28:03

shallow, but no, no. I think that making it relatable is her. Kind of her superpower, right? Like She she's at high school dropout. She is a hardworking and mostly rejected comedian in the 1990s. I mean, that's what you do when you start out. they put in scenes from 1997 and 99 and early two thousands where she's not doing great and she's funny, but not hysterical. And so she's working hard and she's not feeling. A lot of love in general. I mean, she is relatable because she's failed. She's lost a parent. She's had a breakup. I mean, any one of these things are relatable and cancer is just one of the many, many things that happened to her in the context of that. So what I'm saying is she puts a lot of relatable characteristics or experiences out there. So no matter who you are as a viewer, you can relate to her and cancer gets put in there alongside these. And arguably, she actually says it's not the worst thing losing my mother was the worst thing. And so she really draws in the viewer in a intimate way by doing that, because if you've lost a parent, you know what she's saying? So I think that was the brilliance of the movie. I actually thought I, cause I looked at it as a craft and speaking of craft. Went through that one joke over and over, and finally delivers it on the anniversary of the seminal moment where she gets notoriety for that first time that, you know, she, she does that skit in 2012 in August that makes her famous or overnight viral, whatever. And a year later it gets back up on stage. She finally delivers that joke and delivers it perfectly. I love the fact that they showed her crafting that joke because I have a, I have this, I like to watch the crafting of an art. You know, she's an artist she's talented, but she's also skilled at crafting the joke, reading the audience and delivering it at that moment in a way that will land. Like, I just think that that's as a, an artist. I think that was pretty profound to watch. Oh no.

Leah 30:02

Oh, that part, that, that was totally cool, but that's like I told you about that. I think I told you about how I watched that beetle series get back. And I mean, I was a huge Beatles fan growing up and it shows them like tinkering on the piano and you're like, oh my God, that's the beginning of such and such a song. And then they're going through the lyrics and you're like, those aren't the right lyrics. And you see them, like, it's the same thing, right? Where they're like creating something that in the end you're like, oh my God, There's the art, but you're watching them like mold and change and, and collaborate. And, you know, she didn't collaborate with anyone for her joke, but yeah, no, that was great. I loved that repetition of the joke throughout. And then in the end she liked, she's got her punchline.

Tina 30:50

And the, the effort it takes to make something look so effortless, you know, I think that was pretty cool. Yeah.

Leah 30:57

Cool. All right. So I think we covered everything. I mean, we, we kind of talked about the things that we liked. We talked about several defining moments.

Tina 31:08

I have one question.

Leah 31:10

Do we cut to a break and then come back

Tina 31:11

to it? All right. Let's do that.

One question...

Tina 31:19

My question is why was there a camera with her? The whole

Leah 31:24

time. So there, I don't think it was, I think that there were parts where there were reenactments. Oh, at least the parts with, with Stephanie, I'm assuming, but yeah. Part, I think parts of it were, were reenactments. Okay.

Tina 31:39

Yeah. I couldn't cause I, I didn't, you know, critically look at it, but after we, I saw the whole thing, I was like, wait, how did we get so much footage of 2020? I guess, you know, she did have her breakout on, on that one night, August 3rd, 2012. So maybe right after that, someone said, let's make a documentary on you or I don't know. It seemed like there was a camera a lot of the time around

Leah 31:57

her. Right. Because I mean, there's that one footage of her in the hospital and, you know, she's got her friends in there and it's obviously shot on a phone, but the rest of the footage was, yeah, it was pretty, pretty high quality. So yeah, there were parts that were reenactments for sure. But do you kind of forget about it while you're in there and then yeah, then you do look back and you're like, Hey, wait a minute. Was she planning on doing a documentary

Tina 32:23

or, you know, with that immediate kind of notoriety may be, she did get an offer right away at us. Let's do a documentary. I wouldn't doubt it. I mean, she was kind of already plugged into the whole industry in NLA, so it's

Leah 32:36

totally public. Yeah. I have no idea. I just, yeah, I do know that some parts were, um, were reenactments and that, well, what's interesting is her very first show at Largo. The, you know, her defining moment, I guess. cameras were not allowed. Right. And so there was just an audio recording. And so they had snippets of that throughout the film. And then for the anniversary show, they did allow cameras in. So yeah, I don't know. I'm

Tina 33:03

really bad at removing my messages. I've got messages from Ian. I have voicemails from 2015 and you know, six, seven years ago. Oh,

Leah 33:10

I do too. And then when I've upgraded my phone, um, especially with, you know, losing both my parents, I have somewhere on my backups, their, you know, their voicemails and stuff. So I mean, that, that part I get, I, I think. I think I, after first learning, like I had mentioned after first learning about her and how she used humor, you know, as her, I don't want to say it's her coping mechanism, but, you know, using humor and cancer together, um, that was something that I could really, really relate to.

Tina & Leah rate the movie

Leah 33:42

Okay. So, I don't, what are we going to use for our rating scale? Let's just use our cancer pod. We could use their cancer pod and then we could have like a, another one of like Kleenex rating. Like how many Kleenex did you go through? One

Tina 33:55

to five, zero to 5,

Leah 33:56

0, 0 to Kleenex box zero to two, the entire box. Um, yeah, so, okay. So would you recommend this movie to someone?

Tina 34:09

Yeah, I would recommend it even if they didn't know who she was. I think it was entertaining and standing all alone by itself cancer, no cancer. The whole thing, I think it was well done. And I was entertained. I will say this though. She talks slowly. So later on when I went to do like, just a little refresher for this, for our recording, I could watch it at 1.25, just as. You know the speed. I sped it up just a little bit so I can get it done. She talks so slowly that at 1.2, five speed. She was speaking normally. Oh,

Leah 34:39

well I normally speak very slowly too. So I did not notice that she spoke slowly. I wonder if it's cause she's Southern. It was just kind of like, you know, she's got that relaxed kind of way of speaking, you know? Absolutely. She's not east coaster. Like. Even though I speak slowly. Well, depends on the day anyways. Um, um, yeah, no, I, I highly recommend this movie. I also highly recommend anything that I've seen her do because you know, whether it's interviews or whatever. Cause I, I do find her historically funny. And then the Kleenex quotient.

Tina 35:13

I didn't have a clinic's moment in this

Leah 35:16

one and I don't think that it was really going for a Kleenex moment. I had probably, I'm going to say one tissue just because of the whole, um, I get it losing, a parent, two parents, um, Yeah, that just automatically for me, you know, deserving of at least one Kleenex, but yeah, I think it's, it's a very positive movie. highly recommended two thumbs up.

Tina 35:43

Yeah, I think on the Kleenex quotion in general, you're always going to be a little ahead of me. That's my guess. I cry easily. I

Leah 35:49

cry at commercials. So, um, Yeah. And I, the next two films that we have picked, I think are definitely, we're going to be bringing out the Kleenex box. Um, but I think they'll also have that sort of life affirming feeling. and yeah, I just, I don't know. Did we say how many, how many pods that you are going to give them?

Tina 36:14

If five is the top, I'm a tough grader. So I'm going to give it four. Do I give it that last half? Or don't I that's the question. Are you a four and a

Leah 36:23

half? Oh, that's what I was going to do too. I was going to do four and a half as well.

Tina 36:26

I wait, I don't even know why I'm withholding a half except to say that I just don't want to be. I don't, you know, top grade is, I don't know. It's gotta be like mind blowing, I guess.

Leah 36:34

Yeah. I think it was just the, you know, like the, I don't know. I don't know why. I think I got to leave room. I got to leave room for. For the next

Tina 36:42

ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause so we can't, we can't grade the movies on a curve because we haven't seen all the movies. Exactly. So we don't know, maybe one will be better than this. And if so, we've got that little reserved half,

Leah 36:53

it would be like five and three quarters, five and two fifths. Um, uh, okay. So, We don't have a song versus back to the movies there. There was no, I don't think there was any song that really stuck out in the movie. So, um, well, I might just skip the song for this one.

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Tina 37:17

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Leah 37:28

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Tina 37:36

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Leah 37:43

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Tina 38:07

bit of my time. Are you looking for volunteers, anyone out there listening with social media experience gone live? Yeah, I

Leah 38:14

don't think anybody's going to want to do it on the volunteer basis. I think that's just me anyways. Anything else we need to add? No,

Tina 38:21

that's

Leah 38:21

everything. All right.

The next film we discuss is...

Leah 38:23

So our next film that we're going to review is called Ms. Sharon Jones, and it's about Sharon Jones from Sharon Jones and the DAP Kings. They were a funk soul band, um, who had like an underground following. Hmm. Okay. So it's available to watch on some of those streaming platforms and I believe you can watch it for free on Tubi if you register with Tubi. Um, but then you can also pay like a few bucks and rent it.

Tina 38:52

Nice. I haven't seen it yet, so I look forward to it.

Leah 38:54

Yeah. And bring your clean X-Box. All right, but it's going to have amazing music for sure.

Tina 39:02

All right. Well, that's good. That's an incentive because the Kleenex box is no, I think

Leah 39:05

you will appreciate, um, the music. Cause I don't think you're, you're not familiar with the band. Right. And it's totally like my, my vibe of music. So I'm, I'm really excited to learn more about her. All right. So on that note, I'm Dr. Lee Sherman and I'm Dr.

Tina 39:20

Tina Kaeser, and this is the cancer pod until next time.

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You. I ain't first you're last.